new OP vs old heirlooms

[Blanesgarden]

Originally Posted by Little Minnie

I have been surprised more people didn't feel as you do.

Pinetree does say what is OP, hybrid and heirloom. They mark the actual heirlooms with yellow. I agree about the ethnic sections. There is a lot in that catalog that is easy to miss.

I also grow Sungold and after trying OP Sungolds will stick with the F1.

Do you have me on "Ignor"?
My pm sent recently, has not been answered.
Its nothing Major.
But I have never put anyone on Ignor here.
Just the way I roll.

[Little Minnie]

Of course not! I just forgot to reply. Sometimes I check PMs on my phone but don't reply and forget when on my PC.

I have not read through the whole thread (got a lot to do today ) But here is my nickles worth. IMHO the term heirloom being applied to any older crop variety was done as a marketing gimmick by someone. When I first started gardening and through my high school days seed catalogs had two terms. Hybrid and standard.Standard where not a heavy listing back then and always included Rutgers,Marglobe,Ace,Abraham Lincoln etc.They did not call them op or heirloom or even heritage or antique .Back then it was simple with no age guidelines .

Standard= non hybrid variety.

Kevin

[G. Gordon Gumbo]

Most of the professional/commercial growers' catalogs I get have for years listed their tomatoes as either "hybrid," "F1," "open pollinated," or "O/P."

Now that these same catalogs (the ones that sell mostly in packets of 100 seeds or lots of 1000 or more seeds, have heritage varieties listed, they usually put them on a page with the header "specialty tomatoes," or "specialty varieties."

I rarely see professional/commercial growers' catalogs use the term "heirloom," and the only places that term is used profusely, and sometimes with an indescriminately broad bursh, seems to be the vendors who specialize in "open pollinated," "heritage," and "heirloom" varieties.



GGG

[redneckplanter]

isn't the tomato today just a baby as far as development?
it's been cultivated [bred for traits] around 150 years or so?
it's potential is untapped for the most part?
do we need it to have heirloom designations?