Contempt of Congress

Originally Posted by Jennie_in_Iowa

Anybody familiar with the Contempt of Congress charge that's being laid against GWs aides? I understand the why, I'm just not clear on what to expect in terms of action against the aides. Any guesses on whether Bush will be drawn up on charges of Contempt of Congress?

not soon enough !

[uprooted_kentuckian]

On what grounds, exactly?

[Eric]

Originally Posted by uprooted_kentuckian

The value in my home is just fine Eric, how about yours? As for our "entire civilization" collapsing, thats a bit over the top, don't you think? You actually equate stock holdings to killing Jews in the holocaust? I'm pretty sure thats an all time low on this forum.

Oh yeah, I forgot you live in the one area out of none where home values have not dropped.

I don't think its over the top at all, it has to start somewhere, so why not with a massive collaspe of the one true value that has held for centuries, while at the same time countless jobs are being shuttled overseas, while manufacturing is also being/been transplanted to foreign soil. Never mind, the massive level our society has reached in consumption levels, oil and otherwise (Look at your gut or your neighbors...).

And while the national debt is monsterous, the Fed is still printing new money and has been for months to revitialize the economy (at low, low interest rates that have not changed in a year but still seem to be doing nothing to the economy). Sure stock values look promising, but those are resting on the backs of chinese or indian workers so its really quite superficial.


As for the killing of any race of people, in reference to your statement I guess you, value Jews more than Iraqians? Otherwise, what is the difference? I'm sure you supported killing Vietnamese and Koreas a couple decades ago.

[uprooted_kentuckian]

First, I took the home values statement incorrectly. I heard "family values" not home values. But you are correct, I live in an isolated area. Our values are still going up, though building has slowed somewhat.

As for war, it is a necessary evil at times. Simple as that.

Invoking a privilege is one thing, but telling a person not to show up in response to a subpoena -- if only to actually invoke the privilege -- is quite another. It's not just worse, it's a felony under federal criminal law. See for yourself:

18 U.S.C. Sec. 1505 : ... Whoever corruptly ... influences, obstructs, or impedes ... the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress ... shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 5 years ... or both.

18 U.S.C. Sec. 1515(b): As used in section 1505, the term "corruptly" means acting with an improper purpose, personally or by influencing another, including ... withholding, or concealing ... information.

Originally Posted by uprooted_kentuckian

First, I took the home values statement incorrectly. I heard "family values" not home values. But you are correct, I live in an isolated area. Our values are still going up, though building has slowed somewhat.

As for war, it is a necessary evil at times. Simple as that.

a necessary evil ? This war wasn't necessary- it was a corrupt decision to profit. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been murdered. MURDERED for no reason... almost 4000 of our soldiers murdered for no reason except for a cowboys ego. They not only need to be impeached, they need a taste of their own policies.

[uprooted_kentuckian]

First, this is not a war for profit. That is a talking point. Second, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have not been killed. That is sensationalism and incorrect.

As for your previous post, you totally ignore Executive privilege. You may want to read up on it a bit.

[bunkie]

Originally Posted by uprooted_kentuckian

First, this is not a war for profit. That is a talking point. Second, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have not been killed. That is sensationalism and incorrect.

As for your previous post, you totally ignore Executive privilege. You may want to read up on it a bit.

this is a war for profit. read the PNAC papers.

the number of Iraqi casualties has been brought up to a million, and the figure of 600,000 has been carried for over a year now. i posted the sites that provided the actual figures. they are not sensationalism and are very correct.

what about the Executive Privilege? specifics please? peace, bunkie.

p.s. thanks for that info tugshillcam!

[uprooted_kentuckian]

No Bunkie, those casualty figures are not correct. Lancet had so many problems that it is a waste of my time to go over them again. I'm not sure where your new, even higher numbers are coming from.

Here is an interesting article on both Congressional rights to subpoena and the Executive privilege. It seems pretty balanced.

http://stubbornfacts.us/politics/bus...he_same_source

[bunkie]

yes uk, those casualty figures are correct. i'm not talking about Lancet. the justforeignpolicy.com...i think that's the one. will have to check later. i posted it awhile back. peace, bunkie.