Doctors won't operate on 8-year-old girl because her Medicaid doesn't pay enough.

[Mischka]

Originally Posted by crabbyappleton

Some of you better pray that theres no such thing as Karma!!

Sounds as though you speak from first-hand experience. You have my condolences.

[organicbaby]

One of my doctor's waives his fee, petitions the hospital and medical device company to do the same for those who need defibrillators who do not have insurance. It doesn't happen all that often but I'd say at *least* once a year for all 3 to agree at the same time. He's waived his fee even when they wouldn't. So at least some of them (physicians, hospitals and medical device companies) are doing the right thing helping those that they can when the situation arises.

Originally Posted by crabbyappleton

Go ahead remove yours, then remove the scales. OMG!! OMG!! Some of you better pray that theres no such thing as Karma!!

Why? I do unto others as I would like done to myself. PLUS I know how to do simple math...... where the problem????

[Izzy]

re: There is not enough Money -

Yes, there is. Take a look at the past few years of our economy - the bankers have played fast and loose taking our economy down. Between the Federal Reserve and the US government, they have been recipients of TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS through bailouts, borrowing from the fed at no cost thru near zero interest rates(free money), and QE (buying out of bad paper, among other methods that increase the flow of liquidity to the banks.) All this to private businesses that are in the profession of money. Teh banks are awash in liquidity, as are many other large corporations that are on the recieving end of these economic policies. And despite their "losses", the bonuses continue. Am I saying the banks should pay for this child's medical care - absolutely not! What I am saying is that your (and my) assets, like savings and home, are losing value, while at the same time, real costs for necessities are increasing - food, utilities, gas, medicine, etc. All this excess liquidity being held by private corporations is nothing more than stealing from average, working class citizens. Return that money to the working class. Make them whole again, and then, I firmly believe there is enough humanity to more than pay for the truely unfortunate situations that can strike anyone. Not the gang-bangers that shoot each other and end up at the ER getting patched up. Not the drunks that crash through a fence or building, or run over innocent people and then beg for mercy. Personally, I don't give a rat's patootie for people that invite disaster and then want compassion. But I do care about this girl; I was in this very situation back a few years with my own daughter, and I will never forget the compassion and donations that kept my daughter alive. It was so worth it; she was written off by insurance (yes, we had for 20+ years), many doctors, and some hospitals, in such a callous disregard for life over money. We need to decide, as a nation, what's really important in life - life itself or money for the priviledged class.

[crabbyappleton]

Originally Posted by silverseeds

Why? I do unto others as I would like done to myself. PLUS I know how to do simple math...... where the problem????

Sure you do seeds. That's easily seen from what you post here.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by darwinslair

Honestly, the best way to bring down medical costs, would be to get rid of the insurance companies, and I am including the "1 payor system" when I say that. Take away the deep pockets, and the market will only be able to charge what people can afford to pay.
Tom

<Blinking> BINGO </Blinking>

Exactly right. I'd much rather have the option to convert my yearly insurance premiums into a yearly retainer for a physician for preventative health care. Too many times people fear the costs of healthcare and neglect things until they become big issues - causing the rise in costs they were trying to avoid. With a forward thinking approach, many illnesses can be either averted outright, or managed at a level that could improve quality of life while at the same time, contain costs. IMHO, a preventative care strategy coupled with a personal health savings plan can go a long way to solving many problems - but it may not be as profitable for the health care industry.

[Moose]

look around and count the people that you know that spent more for medical care during thier last couple of years, than they earned during thier entire life!!!!!!!!!
Only to die a miserable death anyway!!!!!!!!! moose

Originally Posted by crabbyappleton

Sure you do seeds. That's easily seen from what you post here.

Id love an explanation..... You know so little about me, thats a pretty big leap to make.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by Moose

look around and count the people that you know that spent more for medical care during thier last couple of years, than they earned during thier entire life!!!!!!!!!
Only to die a miserable death anyway!!!!!!!!! moose

That statement speaks volumes about our health care system.

[crabbyappleton]

Originally Posted by Izzy

re: There is not enough Money -

Yes, there is. Take a look at the past few years of our economy - the bankers have played fast and loose taking our economy down. Between the Federal Reserve and the US government, they have been recipients of TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS through bailouts, borrowing from the fed at no cost thru near zero interest rates(free money), and QE (buying out of bad paper, among other methods that increase the flow of liquidity to the banks.) All this to private businesses that are in the profession of money. Teh banks are awash in liquidity, as are many other large corporations that are on the recieving end of these economic policies. And despite their "losses", the bonuses continue. Am I saying the banks should pay for this child's medical care - absolutely not! What I am saying is that your (and my) assets, like savings and home, are losing value, while at the same time, real costs for necessities are increasing - food, utilities, gas, medicine, etc. All this excess liquidity being held by private corporations is nothing more than stealing from average, working class citizens. Return that money to the working class. Make them whole again, and then, I firmly believe there is enough humanity to more than pay for the truely unfortunate situations that can strike anyone. Not the gang-bangers that shoot each other and end up at the ER getting patched up. Not the drunks that crash through a fence or building, or run over innocent people and then beg for mercy. Personally, I don't give a rat's patootie for people that invite disaster and then want compassion. But I do care about this girl; I was in this very situation back a few years with my own daughter, and I will never forget the compassion and donations that kept my daughter alive. It was so worth it; she was written off by insurance (yes, we had for 20+ years), many doctors, and some hospitals, in such a callous disregard for life over money. We need to decide, as a nation, what's really important in life - life itself or money for the priviledged class.

For SOME on this forum Izzy it's the money and their own selfish self interests. And they are so haughty and arrogant about it too, like nothing bad is going to ever befall them. They must think they are invincable or they just think they are being "cute" with the things they say. They talk like bad things only happen to lazy people. Good hard working people never get sick or have accidents, only the lazy people.The kind of lazy people who are trying to steal from poor little them. But they defend the thievery by corporations up onside and down the other, free markets and all, you know.

How is your daughter doing?So glad she got the treatment she needed. Good thing she wasn't depending on some of the folks around here! I hope she lives a happy healthy life into a ripe old age!