One reason why newspapers are dying

[darwinslair]

Originally Posted by FAADAN

They pounded on the economy even when it was doing great. .

I am curious. At what point since 1999 has the economy been doing "great" in more than appearance? Everything I can find points to it being based on a falsehood which created a bubble of imaginary paper money (paper money being numbers not backed by reality)

Much like the growing "wealth" of those invested with Madoff. In the end it was not real. Hard to say they were ever making money. They just thought they were.

Tom

Some live in their own little bubble of reality.

[FAADAN]

Originally Posted by tughillcam

Some live in their own little bubble of reality.

Yes they do.

[FAADAN]

Originally Posted by darwinslair

I am curious. At what point since 1999 has the economy been doing "great" in more than appearance? Everything I can find points to it being based on a falsehood which created a bubble of imaginary paper money (paper money being numbers not backed by reality)

Much like the growing "wealth" of those invested with Madoff. In the end it was not real. Hard to say they were ever making money. They just thought they were.

Tom

My 401K funds took a big hit on 9/11. They came back and then some by the end of 2006 when I retired. Our total economy is based on nothing more than confidence since we went off the gold standard. You can say the economy has been based on falsehood since we went off that standard. Social Security is falsehood. We measure our success with unemployment rates and increases in GDP.

[LarryS]

Newspapers are dying because uneducated trailer trash cannot really
respond adequately.

And we have more trailer trash all the time...
Like it or not!!!

[fruits&nuts]

Originally Posted by darwinslair

I am curious. At what point since 1999 has the economy been doing "great" in more than appearance? Everything I can find points to it being based on a falsehood which created a bubble of imaginary paper money (paper money being numbers not backed by reality)

Much like the growing "wealth" of those invested with Madoff. In the end it was not real. Hard to say they were ever making money. They just thought they were.

Tom

But the newspapers didn't know that. They attacked because a Republican was in charge. These problems were brewing with Clinton but the media stiill refuses to acknowledge any responsibility by Dems.

[fruits&nuts]

Originally Posted by LarryS

Newspapers are dying because uneducated trailer trash cannot really
respond adequately.

And we have more trailer trash all the time...
Like it or not!!!

And they are uneducated because that's what the Dems and the Reps want.

[fruits&nuts]

Originally Posted by Imp

Newspapers aren't turning toes up, the advertising is still a good deal and we sure deliver a lot of papers every night, along with quite a few other folks.

I sometimes wonder why some of your thread titles are so not in line with your thread?

This topic is actually about the LA Times and how you dislike it, so you open a topic with this title "One reason why newspapers are dying " instead of something that is either accurate or related to the topic.

I haven't heard of the LA Times dieing, either, BTW, no matter how left it may seem to lean or not.

The LA Times is cutting people, not because they want to, but because they need to for economic reasons. The Sacramento Bee is shrinking on almost a daily basis, both the newspaper itself and its staff. The Seattle TI and the Rocky Mountain News both just died which just about everyone, except you, is aware of. The NYT is close to defaulting on $400,000,000 in debt. It goes on and on, but it's not my job to educate you. Newspapers are turning their toes up all over the place. Don't post fiction just because you "haven't heard about it." Educate yourself.

The title here is "one reason why newspapers are dying." The one reason that is supported by the posted materials is that newspapers no longer have journalistic standards. They are simply shills for political parties or ideologies. And while that may not bother you, it bothers educated people who are concerned about journalistic integrity.

[FAADAN]

(03-16) 17:38 PDT Washington - --

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, worried about the fate of The Chronicle and other financially struggling newspapers, urged the Justice Department Monday to consider giving Bay Area papers more leeway to merge or consolidate business operations to stay afloat.

In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, released by Pelosi's office late Monday, the San Francisco Democrat asked the department to weigh the public benefit of saving The Chronicle and other papers from closure against the agency's antitrust mission to guard against anti-competitive behavior.

"We must ensure that our policies enable our news organizations to survive and to engage in the news gathering and analysis that the American people expect," Pelosi wrote.

The speaker said the issue of newspapers' survival and antitrust law will be the subject of a hearing soon before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Courts and Competition Policy, chaired by Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga.

Pelosi's spokesman, Brendan Daly, said the speaker was moved by the recent announcement by the Hearst Corp., the parent company of The Chronicle, that it would be forced to sell or close the paper if it could not achieve major cost-savings quickly. Hearst has said the paper lost $50 million last year and that this year's losses will likely be worse.

The Chronicle's largest union, representing nearly 500 employees, ratified a contract Saturday that will clear the way for at least 150 job cuts while also eliminating certain rights and benefits. Another Hearst paper, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, will cease publication Tuesday and become a web-only news outlet, Hearst said Monday.

"She's been a big fan of newspapers her whole life," Daly said. "She wants to ensure their survival, but is also very concerned about anti-trust laws. We have to make sure we follow the well-established guidelines of the Justice Department."

Pelosi released the two-page letter after meeting in her Capitol office last week with Chronicle at-large editor Phil Bronstein and Hearst general counsel Eve Burton, where they discussed the future of the paper and federal media shield legislation.

In the carefully worded letter, Pelosi urged the Justice Department to take a broader view of media competition in the Bay Area. Rather than seeing The Chronicle's main competitors as other newspapers, she urged the department to consider television and Internet media sources and online advertising outlets as competitors as part of any future antitrust review.

A more expansive view of competition could smooth the way for future discussions of a merger or a consolidation of advertising, distribution and other business operations between The Chronicle and the Bay Area News Group, which owns the San Jose Mercury News, the Contra Costa Times and the Oakland Tribune. Hearst has a nearly one-third stake in the non-Bay Area papers of MediaNews, the Denver chain that owns the Bay Area News Group.

"I am confident that the Antitrust Division, in assessing any concerns that any proposed mergers or other arrangements in the San Francisco area might reduce competition, will take into appropriate account, as relevant, not only the number of daily and weekly newspapers in the Bay Area, but also the other sources of news and advertising outlets available in the electronic and digital age, so that the conclusions reached reflect current market realities," Pelosi wrote.

"This is consistent with antitrust enforcement in recent years under both Republican and Democratic administrations. And the result will be to allow free market forces to preserve as many news sources, as many viewpoints, and as many jobs as possible."

Justice Department spokeswoman Gina Talamona said Monday night that the department had received the letter, but would not comment further. "We will respond as appropriate," she said.

Hearst spokesman Paul Luthringer could not be reached for comment Monday night.

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Originally Posted by LarryS

Newspapers are dying because uneducated trailer trash cannot really
respond adequately.

And we have more trailer trash all the time...
Like it or not!!!

I guess that explains the Obama vote!
Seriously, if "trailer-trash" is educated to live that way and to not be able to respond, why do you hold them accountable and not the politicians and executives?
I notice you didn't say "inner-city" trash.